

Pricing turf wars? Snowflake called a truce.
Finance says they own it. Product swears it’s theirs. GTM just wants answers. Snowflake ended the “who runs pricing?” drama with a Monetization Operating Model.
On October 2nd, Snowflake’s Director of Finance, Ryan Campbell, and Metronome CEO Scott Woody share how they built pricing that scales and actually plays nice across teams.

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Anyway… on to today’s Mailbag
We’ve got some great topics today. Here’s what’s on tap:
PE-backed public accounting
Can VC-backed CFOs make the transition to PE?
What exactly is a ‘Controller’?
Now, let’s get into it.

Joe from Denver asked:
I recognize you’re not in public accounting anymore, but what is your take on PE entering the industry? How do you see this playing out over the next 10-15 years?

Thanks, Joe. This is a fascinating question.
Public accounting has been dominated by the partnership model forever. In the 1980s, you had the Big 8. Then consolidation and collapse left the Big 4, and it’s stayed that way ever since.
But things are shifting. Regulators are clamping down harder on independence rules, which makes it harder to cross-sell audit and advisory. That undermines one of the Big 4’s core economic engines. And that’s why private equity smells blood.
Their thesis is simple: take the fragmented tier below the Big 4, consolidate it, professionalize it, drive operational leverage with tech and offshoring, and grab market share. High margin, recurring revenue, and underinvested infrastructure. Classic roll-up play.
The mechanics are fascinating. Under the conventional partnership model, you get a profit share while you’re in the seat as a partner, but you never crystallize any real equity value. Sell to PE, and suddenly, incumbent partners get a payday. But that’s a one-time win, and the model that comes after is a whole different game.
And here’s the problem: incentives.
Pay in public accounting is traditionally poor. People stick it out for three reasons:
Get their CPA, get the name on their CV, then exit the profession
Grind to partner for anywhere from 10-20 years, where the real money finally kicks in
Or… they’re too loyal or too stuck to realize they’re being underpaid and overworked, and eventually get caught somewhere between 1 & 2.
A PE-backed firm kills off reason #2. There’s no partnership track in the same sense. Which raises a big question: How do you attract and retain talent when the long-term carrot disappears?
If the talent pool dries up, the whole model wobbles. And remember, this isn’t just a public accounting issue. These firms are the primary training ground for corporate accounting & finance pros. They’re where a portion of future CFOs cut their teeth.
If the accounting firms get hollowed out, it won’t show up in the P&L right away. But three to five years later, when the pipeline thins out… finance teams will start to feel it.
Looking 10 to 15 years into the future, here’s how this could play out:
Bullish: PE-backed firms scale successfully. They build tech-forward audit and advisory platforms, grab mid-market share, and maybe even IPO. The Big 4 retreat upmarket and lose relevance below the enterprise tier.
Base case: Mixed success. Some scale, most don’t. Big 4 stay dominant, but mid-tier disruption creates pressure on pricing, talent, and innovation.
Bear case: Talent exodus and cultural clash kill the thesis. Audit quality suffers, regulatory scrutiny ramps up, and PE pulls back. The Big 4 weather the storm, but the overall sector weakens.
And looming over all of this is AI. God knows what impact it will have in that timeline, but it will be seismic. Whether it automates grunt work, rewires entire workflows, or reduces demand for junior headcount altogether, we just don’t know yet. But whatever happens, the profession will not look the same in 2035.
PS – This is exactly the kind of issue we’ll be diving into in the Boardroom Brief. If you’ve got a strong view or a front-line perspective, drop me a note. I want to hear it.


CFO is just a title from EMEA asked:
First things first, thanks for your invaluable content. For those FD/CFOs working for VC-backed startups and scale-ups but eager to break into the PE world - aka PE-backed CFO - which steps or recommendations would you be able to give from your experience or your network?

Thanks for the question.
You should start from the place that this transition is harder than you think. To some extent, VC and PE represent opposite challenges for a CFO.
Let me explain…
It’s not just that PE is more finance-intensive and demanding. It’s that the skillsets, incentives, and stakeholder expectations are structurally different. What makes you great in VC - fast growth, fundraising, storytelling - may leave you exposed in PE, where it’s all about cash, control, and compression.
In a VC-backed world, the heroes are the product and the go-to-market engine. Your job is to ride those coattails, raise more equity than the balance sheet really deserves, and ration it carefully enough to hit the next milestone. Finance isn’t the hero, but it’s the steward, keeping the company alive until growth hits escape velocity.
In a PE-backed world, it’s the reverse. The business is intentionally thinly capitalized. Less equity than is comfortable, stacked with as much debt as the sponsor thinks it can get away with. Financial engineering and the value creation plan are the heroes. The CFO has to keep the machine tight: cash, covenants, reporting, performance. But that’s just the entry ticket. You aren’t just managing the model, you’re on point to deliver the value creation plan: bolt-ons, synergies, pricing, procurement, working capital, and exit readiness.
I’m not saying the transition isn’t possible. Plenty have made it. But it is hard, and it’s a very different playbook.
My advice:
Be honest about your positioning. If your network and reputation are in VC, don’t throw that away. There’s value in doubling down on what you’re already good at.
Find the bridge. The cleanest way to get PE credibility is to take a VC-backed CFO role with a clear path to a PE exit. If you can “complete” the VC journey and then travel with the business into PE ownership, you gain experience of PE by default. You will it into existence.
Take a #2 seat if needed. A divisional CFO or VP Finance role under a seasoned PE CFO gives you reps on the playbook: covenant models, data rooms, board packs, value creation plans. It’s not a demotion if it moves you forward.
Prove you can run the business from the balance sheet. In VC, you can hide behind revenue growth. In PE, there’s nowhere to hide. That means driving liquidity, optimizing working capital, managing debt, and delivering EBITDA expansion. You need proof points. You can use any CFO role to get reps in (albeit with different stakes).
Learn how PE investors think. In PE, you’re not just an operator, you’re part of the equity story. That means supporting diligence, helping shape the exit plan, and thinking like a sponsor.
Final macro point: The boundaries are blurring. VCs are holding later, PE funds are investing earlier. Over the next decade, I expect to see more CFOs who can run both playbooks. But to get there, you need at least one clean example of having made the leap.
That’s the move: finish the VC cycle, land the PE transition, and then you’ve got a credible resume in both worlds.
And here’s something exciting … this Saturday I’m starting a month-long Playbooks series diving into how to succeed as a PE-backed CFO!

Dmitrijs from Riga, Latvia asked:
Hi Secret,
In a recent post, you wrote: “CFOs, if you are lucky enough to have a great controller, treasure them. As Joni Mitchell once said: You don’t know what you’ve got ’til it’s gone.”
Could you please elaborate on how you see the role and functions of a Controller in a business, particularly compared to the Head of Accounting and the Head of FP&A?
In my experience (I’m a CFO based in Latvia), I often think of my finance function as having “two arms”: one past-looking and transaction-oriented (accounting), and one forward-looking (FP&A).
I’d be really interested to hear your perspective on where the Controller best fits in that structure, and how you’ve seen the role evolve in practice.

Dmitrijs – great question.
The first thing to say is that terminology varies a lot. In the US, “Controller” usually means chief accountant, the senior lead on books, records, and reporting. In Europe, you’ll often see “financial controllers” in that same sense, but also “business controllers” who are much more commercial. A business controller in Europe is closer to what a US company might call commercial finance, FP&A, or a senior business analyst.
So titles can be slippery. What matters is the fabric of the role… focus more on that.
When I wrote about great controllers being a gift, I meant the accounting and reporting side. The person who makes the engine room run. They own the close, the reporting, and if they’re strong, much of the budget cycle, the board pack, and the commentary. They are the heartbeat of the function, imo.
I generally agree with your framing of finance as two arms: backward-looking accounting vs forward-looking FP&A. But in practice, there’s a messy middle: budgeting, performance commentary, and variance analysis. In less mature functions, that middle ground often sits with FP&A because you need specialist skills to get the capability up and running.
But as the accounting and reporting function matures, strong controllers should be able to take on much of it. At their best, controllers stretch forward into FP&A territory, but that requires commercial understanding and the ability to think beyond the close.
My last VP of Accounting & Reporting could easily have held her own in a senior FP&A or BU CFO role. And vice versa. That’s the sweet spot, when your functional leaders can lean across to create bridges with each other’s functions and into the business. That’s when the magic happens.
And one more point: the best controllers evolve with the business. Early on, they’re hands-on in the details. Later, they’re designing processes, building teams, and embedding systems. They scale finance as the business scales. That’s why great ones are worth their weight in gold.
So don’t get hung up on titles. Ask instead: Who’s running the engine room? Who’s connecting the past to the future? And who’s building the next layer of capability?
If you’ve got a controller who does that well, treasure them… Like I treasure my 1971 copy of Joni Mitchell’s Blue on vinyl. I know it’s a little early for Christmas songs, but this is something you can enjoy all year round (like the movie Diehard)…

A few of the biggest stories that every CFO is paying close attention to. This is the section you might not want to see your name in.
This study found that workplace relationships are worth a 20% salary premium.
Let’s be honest, the Big 4 have been dining out on this principle for all of eternity… ‘the pay is shit, but you’ll make some friends for life.’
One of my best friends is someone I met in the Big 4. She was like a work big sister who stopped me from making all kinds of horrifying mistakes in my early years. Some of those mistakes are still too embarrassing to share a quarter of a century later.
Fair to say, I’d probably have been fired and thrown on the graduate shit pile without her overwatch… definitely worth more than 20% of a Big 4 graduate salary.
We are going to see more of this. Rapid retooling of human resources to use AI. This is a clear message from the top here at Accenture… learn or go.
I mean, did anyone following this ever think this was anything other than just a Ponzi scheme?!
Finally, Alex Mehr and Tai Lopez are in hot water with the SEC, which said, “In order to pay interest, dividends and maturing note payments, Defendants resorted to using a combination of loans from outside lenders, merchant cash advances, money raised from new and existing investors, and transfers from other portfolio companies to cover obligations.” Translation? Ponzi scheme.

ICYMI, here are some of my favorite finance/business social media posts from this week. In the words of Kendall Roy, “all bangers, all the time.”:
Makes sense, we have about 15 of these bears at home …
Build A Bear has outperformed Palantir and Nvidia over the past 5 years.
— #Spencer Hakimian (#@SpencerHakimian)
4:04 AM • Sep 25, 2025
Morning routine expectation vs reality
— #Boring_Business (#@BoringBiz_)
9:26 PM • Sep 23, 2025
The best career advice you will read this week:
I became Senior VP at a multi-million dollar company at age 26. My salary was $600k. This was in 2018.
How did I do it?
It wasn’t hustle culture. No 5:30am wakeups, cold showers, or productivity hacks.
What got me there was a relentless focus on impact. Every project I
— #Cited (#@cited)
6:56 AM • Sep 25, 2025

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